• Margot Robbie@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I don’t really know how people can even use YouTube without ad blockers. Sitting through minutes of advertisement is not going to make me want to buy your product if I start mentally associating your product with frustration and annoyance. If these video ads are going to be repetitive and annoying, at least make them funny.

    It seems like there is nowhere on the Internet to get away from ads currently, even here, where you thought you are safe, you are now reading an ad for my newest movie (you know the one), now also available on streaming!

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        1 year ago

        I’m not cheap, I’m frugal, there is a difference.

        Paying Google for them to stop shoving ads in my face doesn’t feel like a good purchase and I don’t want to support that kind of behavior, and I’m smart enough to use uBlock Origin and ReVanced (Little bit of a struggle though.)

        It’s more about principle than anything else.

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          @MargotRobbie@lemm.ee As a creative on strike I would have thought you would have felt some solidarity with the content creators who make 50% of the ad revenue you are withholding from them by blocking ads.

          I pay for premium because I can’t stand ads but I do want to support creators with a share of my subscription, even though I know it is less than they would have made if I watched the ads. I thought maybe you would feel the same given you aren’t hurting for money either.

          I know it is not a perfect system, but I do appreciate the content creators I watch enough to want them get payed. I subscribe to Nebula too for this reason, though I admit I should use it more.

          @InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world

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            1 year ago

            Have you watched the ending of that movie? Refusing to participate in a broken system is always an option.

            If you would like to support your favorite creators, buying their merchandise or donating to them would be far more effective.

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    1 year ago

    Man y’all really expect high quality, extremely diverse, and robust video streaming platform for free?!

    YouTube gotta pay it’s bills somehow. Why y’all ok with paying Netflix/prime/hulu or whatever but not YouTube?!

    YouTube don’t owe nobody free services. Get over it.

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      1 year ago

      This is not what is happening. Google offers you a tier with advertising for free. If you’d prefer to not have the ads, you can pay a small fee, get no ads and also steam every song ever. I truly don’t see the controversy.

      It’s literally cheaper than a beer for a full month of this service, but people would rather spend hours of their time tinkering with settings instead. Personally, I don’t have that kind of time.

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        If I’m not mistaken, the “tinkering” necessary in uBlock Origin would take much less than the time you took to type out your comment. And no, it doesn’t cost less than a beer.

        You have a point, but the problem goes far beyond ads vs. no ads. There is definitely a lot of controversy, and you simplify choose not to see it, but don’t try to act like everyone else is just too dumb or too poor to see things your way when neither of those are true.

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          If I’m not mistaken, the “tinkering” necessary in uBlock Origin would take much less than the time you took to type out your comment.

          I did not say that applying today’s partiucar fix would take hours. For however long this fix works works. I said “people would rather spend hours of their time tinkering with settings instead.” Of course I use ublock myself, the web is appalling without it.

          As to the price of beer, that may be an Australian thing. But if you manage to get a schooner (425ml/15 oz) at a public bar here for less than $10, you’re probably drinking something crap.

          You have a point, but the problem goes far beyond ads vs. no ads. There is definitely a lot of controversy, and you simplify choose not to see it, but don’t try to act like everyone else is just too dumb or too poor to see things your way when neither of those are true.

          I see what people are complaining about. They’re acting like they are being forced to visit the website. A website that sits behind one of the largest and most responsive network/web clusters on the planet. A website that is somehow referencing over an Exabyte of storage, geographically redundant and presumabely being backed up. I work in this industry, on a network with over 1,000 servers and my mind boggles at how much infrastructure that takes. I couldn’t begin to estimate what is behind that simple YouTube web front page.

          Somehow, the controversy is that Google has the gall to want to recoup some of these costs. It costs a fortune for just the hardware. Then add the bandwidth. Then somehow they’re paying content creators to put popular videos on the platform. And they offer it all to you for free in return for watching some ads. Or alternatively, you pay $10 to not watch ads.

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            I see what you mean on that last point, but I think their profits are just insanely above what the average company’s looking at, which is probably why it seems like so much at face value.

            Just the data alone that they’re complaining on almost everyone out there would more than make up for what they spend. It’s most likely why Facebook and others are also free.

            As far as being forced to visit, there really aren’t many alternatives on the same level to where you can really say someone can easily do without. It’s what they wanted in the first place, so it’s not like this wasn’t something they weren’t planning for ahead of time.

            It’s a tough situation, I don’t know that I wouldn’t do the same thing in youtube’s place, but I don’t think simply accept what the big Corp tells us is the best path either.

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    Google recently announced that it’s podcast service is shutting down and moving to YouTube music, I don’t want or need YouTube music so I’ve already moved to Podcast Republic, it has a few ads but they can be removed with a small one off payment. Google just wants to shove all it’s users into YouTube and YouTube music for maximum ads and data harvesting.

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      Heads up as more and more people seem to not know this lately: the overwhelming majority of podcasts are officially and legally available without having to pay for them. Traditionally a podcast was just an mp3 or video file someone posted up on their blog that could be subscribed to via a basic RSS feed.

      Anyway, on Android Antenna Pod is a great free and open source app for managong podcasts and youe subscriptions to them. Can get it off F-Droid.

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        The way I see it, if a podcast isn’t available through RSS it ain’t a podcast.

        Spotify exclusives: Not podcasts. Audible exclusives: Not podcasts.

        If I can’t listen to it on my phone with Overcast, then I won’t listen to it. The only exception for me is stuff on BBC Sounds, but much of that isn’t offered as podcast anyway.

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        AntennaPod user for years and years here too. I’ve tried other ones but always come back. It’s in the regular play store as well if that’s easier for folks.

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    Even if I have to sit through 30 seconds of silence, is there a way to redirect the ad to a ghost browser so I don’t have to listen to something like grubhubs stupid video?

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          Cannot get this to work for the life of me. Worked for a bit, then it stopped working again and no amount of repatching fixes it

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            All I need YouTube, specifically, for is to access new posts on my subscription list and to give my content creators likes and views. But I have to be logged in for that, and so far, the blocks seem to be limited to logged in viewers. So right now I’m just not logging in, lol. And if YouTube won’t let me give my preferred content creators likes and views by trapping them behind a login/adwall, I can still use my subscription list with Freetube (which is awesome on PC) or one of the other front ends.

            You can easily get all your YouTube data via something called Google Takeout; do that and you have a list of all your subscriptions, history, lists, etc and you won’t lose access to it just because you’re logged out, or no longer using the YT front end for your viewing needs.

            Also, when I get a bit of time to make the switch, I am going to start using a different account for Youtube. One I don’t give a shit if they shut down. There is a free import/export tool in the Chrome web store called “Subscriptions Importer For YouTube” that lets you import 50 subscriptions at a time (more if you pay for premium), but honestly I’d do it manually just to insulate myself from having the entire account banned for ad evasion, which is a possibility depending on just how badly they want to force ads/free up drive space.

            So try watching on a different browser without logging in, and see what happens. You should be able to get in just fine. And logging in on your main browser will still enable you to get your YouTube data, which you can then use however you like. It’s a pain in the ass, sure, but right now it might be either that or ads, until a more stable situation is reached.