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Invidious: News to me. My instance has never been down.
GrayJay: News to me… https://github.com/futo-org/grayjay-android I can see the full source… and the license seems pretty “free” to me… https://github.com/futo-org/grayjay-android/blob/master/LICENSE.md with only caveat being that you can’t distribute it for payment. I’m fine with that… and most others should be fine with that too.
ytdl: depends on the service using it. https://www.tubearchivist.com/ uses ytdl and gives you a little frontend for it. Works fine for watching and you can set it to watch for uploads from channels.

or invidious, grayjay, ytdl, etc…

It’s directly related. If it’s in Apple’s system… or M$'s systems… They get to control your passkeys (not you). Including arbitrarily locking you out for whatever reason they want. Including “oops our datacenter died”. Hell… case and point. I bought new pixel phones (GrapheneOS), Google store didn’t charge my card at all, a card that’s been associated with my account for at least 10 years now, they marked it as “Suspicious” and locked my entire google account. Talking to support… None of them can even see that my account is locked.

This is what “normal” people will get shoved into. This is not a win for any consumer. It’s a win for corporations. They get to see each request you make and use that metadata for themselves.

Most people will store in their ecosystem (Microsoft or Apple). Lose your device, recover via logging back into your service.

You’ll own nothing and be happy!

Nah. It would be easy and probably responsible for google to ban site’s that are malicious like that from poisoning their AI. I think the blame rests squarely on google.

I’m just pointing out that the $300 on the original comment I replied to for ps plus is insane.

And you justify the value of it based on the 3 “free” games a month. To which I’m arguing against. $80 a year for the life of the console will almost certainly be more than $300. With console generations lasting nearly 5 years on average each that’s actually $400 in subscriptions, keep in mind that generations have been getting longer, and seventh and eighth gen consoles lasted for 8 and 7 years respectively… So closer to $600 in cost.

I’m not justifying console vs PC.

But that’s the context of the whole thread…

positively moderated, optimized gaming experience

bwuahahahah. Sure. Cause console lobbies aren’t filled with kids screaming racial slurs. And it’s so positively moderated that all your data including credit cards leak (https://firewalltimes.com/sony-data-breach-timeline/).

How many people actually download and store those installers though?

… The hundreds of GOG-based torrents disagree with this sentiment. You don’t need EVERY person to store it. Just a handful of seedboxes can feed the world sort of thing…

Edit: But this does risk someone being malicious with the torrent of course…

You’re using the same amount of storage whether you buy games physically or digitally.

The difference being that you can load the content back onto the SSD at will, and regardless of server statuses… A lot of people have bandwidth caps or live in places with shit internet speeds.

Edit: I should clarify that I know some publishers only use the disc as a license of sorts with only a few MB of data… I’m wholly against this concept. Think publishers that don’t ship a working game on the disc should be barred from selling physical copies at all as it’s just landfill.

If we’re talking raw capabilities… Piracy is subscriptionless and grants you access to virtually 99% of all games from all time and across all consoles. I’m going to say that PC is the clear winner here…

No harm in mocking them for it, but I wouldn’t be ringing alarm bells unless they actually start implementing it in their vehicles.

Right. This is what I’m not understanding though. Ford is the only brand I’m aware of where disabling telemetry/radios is as simple as pulling a fuse on many models of their cars (https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/experience-with-disabling-the-telematics-control-unit-module.36040/, https://www.fordtremor.com/threads/disabling-the-modem-pulling-the-fuse.7101/). The other brands don’t make it that easy at all where you’d need to modify the radio/antenna yourself (and disassembling a bunch of shit just for the opportunity to do that).

Eh. There were free licenses. As long as you could show you weren’t using it commercially.

Has Denmark…

Show’s FBI warning.

You know that the FBI is not a Denmark thing right?

I bought a set of pixel phones the other day (for grapheneos)… I COULD reach google store support. Real people. I left the conversation dumber than when I started. I promise you talking to anyone at Google doesn’t matter either. Google is just outright not worth it if you need support for anything… period.

I mean… infinity… and infinity-1 are essentially the same number.

So not at all?

Just like a certain someone who had classified documents that they weren’t even supposed to have without a handler!

The shitty part of the stick… which would be the smelly part, would be firmly lodged no? The stick itself wouldn’t be smelly, which would be the only part that could be vented.

If the stick is in my ass, how could I possibly be venting it? Can you at least attempt to make sense?

Imagine actually attempting to continue a conversation.

Don’t actually do it. Just imagine it.

Nah, you need to read more!

… Nothing you wrote addresses any of the concerns/criticisms that I’ve levied in return. There’s nothing additional to read and you’ve failed to furnish more. Talk about bad faith discussions. You’re response is literally “go google it”… “go read it again”, same bullshit hand-wavy nonsense.

1. You cannot have a central repository and require people to enter ALL their digital works into it. This violates a number of freedoms.
2. You cannot maintain such a repository without funding, and a fuckton of it.
3. You cannot enforce that companies must use such a repository.
4. Even if you did… stolen materials would appear outside of repository and cannot be contained regardless. and arugably having this central repo would make it easier to steal (whether just outright theft, or theft of attribution).
5. Even if you did. And a book got 100,000 downloads, how do you determine what value they get? What if the writer determines that’s unreasonable?
6. How does a creative person in any form make money on this system?
7. This doesn’t stop at just “creative” works right? This must include things like code and other digital works right? Oh shit, I just recorded a vlog on my phone. Gotta upload it to your magic repository!
8. How is malicious use of that central repo mitigated? Remember… you don’t want a middleman taking anything.

You seem to think that you can do ANY of this without some form of DRM and copyright. Remember, you stated

we have all the tools we need to build a middle man free service

While at the same time outlining a literal middleman service as your standard. If a writer/artist/whatever wanted to self-publish. Nothing stops them. Open a website with magento, woocommerce, Prestashop… whatever you want. And sell it for whatever you think is fair. That would be the best case instance to cut out the middleman. This doesn’t mean you can just strip a person of their rights to their works just because it’s “free” to make duplicates of it. It’s wild that you start the premise with that requirement from the get go, going down the premise proves that it wouldn’t work, which was most of the point of my comments. But you seem wildly disinterested in actually discussing anything. You’re nearly as bad as the people who claim communism works… but we just never saw true communism. (which is just as bad as people who claim any absolute system works… when we’ve never seen it work at all).

and the only way that stories and songs and ideas were passed on was through chains of people copying and retelling them.

From your original comment. There’s a difference in rights to the works vs rights to the performance/recording. And further there’s a difference between “personal” and “commercial” usages. The reason those stories and songs are passed down is because personal use is effectively unenforceable (and retelling in your own words would be what we call “fair use”). In your world, you’d make it also unenforceable for commercial usages as well.