People freed from chores fear for their income. Guess it’s about time for universal income.
People freed from chores fear for their income. Guess it’s about time for
universal income.fully automated luxury gay space communismAbsoultely not.
Could do with some sort of boot camp for people though, people are so lazy left to their own devices.
We already have fully automatic coffee machines - and they make shit coffee. Adding a robotic arm will not help because it’s not about mechanical control it’s about getting the process right and consistently repeatable. And that can be done without AI if anyone wanted to invest enough money.
Most coffee places use automatic coffee machines, as long as they have good beans the coffee is good. Getting the correct weight of grounds and tamping them down is not a process difficult to automate.
I’m from Australia, and visit Germany regularly.
Australian coffee is sublime. Made manually, it’s a profession of pride for many, and in all my travels to many countries, the coffee of Australia has never been bested.
German coffee is made through exact, automated machines, and it’s crap. It’s some of the worst coffee I’ve experienced.
Machine after machine, I’ve tried them all, and I’ve given up.
I don’t know what the human does, but whatever they do that the machine is not doing, makes av huge difference, and no manufacturer has cracked the magic formula yet.
I’ve had the opposite experience, my regular coffee shop uses an automatic machine. They have the best espresso in the area, it might help that they roast their own beans.
You are objectively wrong about coffee. You are leaving out a whole world of variables that easily effect the coffee and are the difference between a bad coffee shop and a great one. Water quality, water temperature, grind size, grind consistency, tamp pressure, bed consistency are all huge and we haven’t even gotten to roasting the beans, dialing in an espresso machine for a certain bean, etc…
Most coffee shops use automatic machines for their drip coffee and nothing else
I didn’t leave the other variables out. A human in the loop doesn’t change grind size or consistency. A human in the loop doesn’t change water quality, or temperature. A human in the loop won’t change bean quality.
Tamp pressure is more consistent with automated machines vs humans. It is much easier to dial in a shot for particular beans/roast, you can literally dial it in, that’s why coffee shops use automatic machines. Those machines are not the cheap ones they can cost up to $10k. Over half the coffee shops in my area use automatic machines.
I’ve been hearing talk of mechanised coffee makers/baristas taking over for over 20 years now. In this current AI hype environment it’s pretty easy to believe that now’s the time. And sometimes hype can make that happen if everyone believes it’s the time for it.
I’m not in the robotics space but I can imagine that more pervasive ML and/or DL techniques can bring the field forward. Whether they translates to better automatic coffee machines though? I think I’m doubtful just because of how much of the job is random fine motor control stuff. Though, to be fair, so many coffee places, even good ones, have so much variance in the quality of their product that they don’t control for because they don’t have to that I can see machines doing on average a better job in many cases … where again, with AI hype, people may just be happy to accept and embrace that. I’d certainly go try coffee from a coffee robot now.
Which of course gets to the potentially oncoming reality for a lot of people … climate change + job automation … over a 5-30 year time scale, shit’s about to get whack.
I was on the outskirts of this robotics transformation.
The robotic arm stuff is the game changer. It’s such a general purpose machine. It’s very impressive but not quite perfect and the vision is very impressive but not quite perfect. When I seen it, it was very almost there but because it couldn’t do that 1% it couldn’t replace humans at all. It really feels like it just needs to be that little bit better and the world will change.
Well that was almost 5 years ago. One day, maybe it’s here, the floodgates will open.
This would be good news in less shit economic system where access to food/shelter etc isn’t tied to employment.
We need to focus less on protecting jobs, and more on protecting people.
The problem is that any job is going to be targeted for automation in high income countries because the cost of the worker is going to be far higher than the equipment.
The problem is the system that requires people to have jobs just to live.
Yeah, but it is going to be an adjustment for society to decide what to do when a large segment of the population will never be economically or otherwise productive.
Toss them out
I really wanna hear what the proposal is for removing “unqualified” jobs en masse without implementing universal basic income.
The low pay and bad conditions of “unqualified” jobs often gets excused because they, allegedly, are “stepping stones”, a means of sustaining oneself while working towards more specialized careers.
If you destroy a significant amount of those positions, where does that leave those people? Are we so drunk on cyberpunk-esque lust of AI evolution that we are fine eliminating the means of entry to society for so many?
If it’s anything like Maggie’s legacy in the UK. It just leads to generations of poverty and society degradation that even now don’t look like they will be reversed. Like it’s mad that life was better when people crawled in a hole to mine coal by hand.
But hey it least it was an excuse for a party when she died.
