Craig Doty II, a Tesla owner, narrowly avoided a collision after his vehicle, in Full Self-Driving (FSD) mode, allegedly steered towards an oncoming train.
Nighttime dashcam footage from earlier this month in Ohio captured the harrowing scene: Doty’s Tesla rapidly approaching a train with no apparent deceleration. He insisted his Tesla was in Full Self-Driving mode when it barreled towards the train crossing without slowing down.
As someone with more than a basic understanding of technology and how self driving works, I would think the end user would take special care driving in fog since the car relies on cameras to identify the roads and objects. This is clearly user error.
When it’s been advertised to the user as “full self driving”, is it?
Furthermore, the car can’t recognize the visibility is low and alert the user and/or refuse to go into self driving?
I wouldn’t believe an advertisement.
I wouldn’t trust Musk with my life either.
But, presumably, we have moved beyond the age of advertising snake oil and miracle cures; advertisements have to be somewhat factual.
If a user does as is advertised and something goes wrong I do believe it’s the advertiser who is liable.
Keyword presumably.
If the product doesn’t do what it says it does, that’s the product / manufacturers fault. Not the users fault. Wtf lol how is this even a debate.
Right. But can you blame the user for trusting the advertisement?
I mean, yes. I blame anyone who falls for marketing hype of any kind.
At the dealership? Kinda, yeah, it’s a dealership and news like this pop up every week.
On the road? I wouldn’t trust my life to any self-driving in this day and age.
problem is most people do. anybody remember watch dogs?
There are many quite loud alerts when FSD is active in subpar circumstances about how it is degraded, and the car will slow down. That video was pretty foggy, I’d say the dude wasn’t paying attention.
I came up on a train Sunday evening in the dark, which I hadn’t had happen in FSD, so I decided to just hit the brakes. It saw the crossing arms as blinking stoplights, probably wouldn’t have stopped?
Either way that dude was definitely not paying attention.
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Leaving room for user error in this sort of situation is unacceptable at Tesla’s scale and with their engineering talent, as hamstrung as it is by their deranged leadership
If you are in the driver’s seat, you are 100% responsible for what your car does. If you let it drive itself into a moving train, that’s on you.
I cannot fathom how anyone can honestly believe Tesla is entirely faultless in any of this, completely and totally free of any responsibility whatsoever.
I’m not gonna say they’re 100% responsible but they are at least 1% responsible.
If Tesla is at fault for an inattentive driver ignoring the myriad warnings he got to remain attentive when he enabled FSD and allowing the 2 ton missile he’s sitting in to nearly plow into a train, then Dodge has to be responsible for the Challenger being used to plow into those protestors in Charlottesville.
God fucking damn it, why do you people insist on making me defend fucking Tesla?!
Not defending Tesla is free, you can just immediately enjoy the immense benefits of not defending Tesla.