it’s not owned and controlled by Americans. This makes American billionaires unhappy, and the liked of Zuckerberg would be very happy for the removal of comepetiton.
America has a sinophobia problem, I know a lot of Americans here don’t see it, and get mad if you bring it up, but from the outside looking in, it’s very obvious.
Policy makers in America seem scared of young people being politically motivated, and a lot of that is happening via tiktok. It stopped the red wave, it’s now impacting democratic polling, they’re losing control.
These points are all absolutely correct, and generally follow a trend of protectionism sweeping across the globe, but there’s also a genuine concern about how Tiktok shapes public POV based on CCP decisions(for example, suppressing content about the excessive Covid lockdown, the Uyghur and Tibetan genocide, and suppression of Hui Muslims, Hong Kong and other minorities in China).
And now it will only be US state department approved propaganda from now on. Losing TikTok isn’t going to be a win I think many people think it will be. It could be, but the policies that will enable it are made with bad intentions in mind so it won’t be.
That content doesn’t seem suppressed, I’ve seen most of those things on TikTok. Some people were actively trying to see if that was true, and while it’s hard to know if it’s being penalised by the algorithm or not, it seemed fine.
If anything I report stuff all the time and it’s just like Facebook and other social media, the reports basically go to /dev/null. Like, legitimate banworthy content like Elon Musk crypto scams and porn, both examples of things to report when you go to the reporting page.
that 2nd point… I think it really depends on where you live in America. the west coast states are heavily asian influenced - Chinese expats or people of Chinese descent are a significant population percentage.
It’s because the app is controlled by a foreign adversary. If there was a Russian social media app that collected obscene amounts of user data, people would be rightly calling for that to be banned too.
But thats such a dumb reason considering the shit that facebook collects and instagram etc. Over the years it has come out that they collect so much damn data. They even did psychological experiments on teenagers by fucking with their timeline and see if they can change how they feel.
They are tracking so much stuff inside peoples phones. They track everything they do and sell it for money.
And don’t even get me started on google.
You and congress are all up in arms when china or russia does it but are happy happy joy joy when american government or corporations do it themselves.
A couple of corporations own most of the media/news in america and that is all completely fine. Congress doesn’t give a single fuck about any of that.
Its the hypocrisy that pisses me off. No corporations or government should have all this data and manipulate users. But its not a problem at all unless a foreign corporation does it.
And to then ban it in the name of privacy. “Only we can abuse americans! 😠”. Its ridiculous.
I agree with a lot of what you said. I think we need a digital bill of rights to protect things like online privacy and personal data.
There’s two reasons TikTok is different:
Being controlled by a foreign adversary is not comparable to a corporation trying to make money. They will use the data they collect to weaken American interests and push their own.
As I understand it, the data collected by TikTok is so excessive it makes Facebook look mild.
China isn’t an adversary. It’s a competitor to America. You aren’t at war with China, and both China and America heavily depend on each other and are strong trading partners. This is your propaganda talking.
Lol no, Facebook and Google collect orders of magnitude more data about you, your life, your job, your friends and colleagues, your medical status, everything.
Trump tried to ban Tiktok because it was Chinese owned and it got rejected. But now it’s getting banned, why?
Is it actually because it is showing bad things Israel has done or has something else happened? I’m genuinely out of the loop and confused.
These points are all absolutely correct, and generally follow a trend of protectionism sweeping across the globe, but there’s also a genuine concern about how Tiktok shapes public POV based on CCP decisions(for example, suppressing content about the excessive Covid lockdown, the Uyghur and Tibetan genocide, and suppression of Hui Muslims, Hong Kong and other minorities in China).
And now it will only be US state department approved propaganda from now on. Losing TikTok isn’t going to be a win I think many people think it will be. It could be, but the policies that will enable it are made with bad intentions in mind so it won’t be.
That content doesn’t seem suppressed, I’ve seen most of those things on TikTok. Some people were actively trying to see if that was true, and while it’s hard to know if it’s being penalised by the algorithm or not, it seemed fine.
If anything I report stuff all the time and it’s just like Facebook and other social media, the reports basically go to
/dev/null. Like, legitimate banworthy content like Elon Musk crypto scams and porn, both examples of things to report when you go to the reporting page.Occupy Wall Street and Opposition to the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) genuinely scared the shit out of them.
I had so much hope for the Internet at that time. But since then it’s turned to horseshit.
that 2nd point… I think it really depends on where you live in America. the west coast states are heavily asian influenced - Chinese expats or people of Chinese descent are a significant population percentage.
And thr sinophobia is sadly just as strong there, maybe worse. Stop Asian hate is a campaign for a reason.
eh… its mostly african americans vs asians in my neck of the woods.
This has big “oh no no, there’s no racism in my community, I would know” vibes.
plenty of racism, as I stated previously.
Trump was right, people just didn’t want to admit it.
Right because its chinese owned? What is wrong with that? Or is it only okay when a white western dude owns the company?
It’s because the app is controlled by a foreign adversary. If there was a Russian social media app that collected obscene amounts of user data, people would be rightly calling for that to be banned too.
But thats such a dumb reason considering the shit that facebook collects and instagram etc. Over the years it has come out that they collect so much damn data. They even did psychological experiments on teenagers by fucking with their timeline and see if they can change how they feel.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/29/facebook-users-emotions-news-feeds
They are tracking so much stuff inside peoples phones. They track everything they do and sell it for money.
And don’t even get me started on google.
You and congress are all up in arms when china or russia does it but are happy happy joy joy when american government or corporations do it themselves.
A couple of corporations own most of the media/news in america and that is all completely fine. Congress doesn’t give a single fuck about any of that.
Its the hypocrisy that pisses me off. No corporations or government should have all this data and manipulate users. But its not a problem at all unless a foreign corporation does it.
And to then ban it in the name of privacy. “Only we can abuse americans! 😠”. Its ridiculous.
I agree with a lot of what you said. I think we need a digital bill of rights to protect things like online privacy and personal data.
There’s two reasons TikTok is different:
Being controlled by a foreign adversary is not comparable to a corporation trying to make money. They will use the data they collect to weaken American interests and push their own.
As I understand it, the data collected by TikTok is so excessive it makes Facebook look mild.
China isn’t an adversary. It’s a competitor to America. You aren’t at war with China, and both China and America heavily depend on each other and are strong trading partners. This is your propaganda talking.
Lol no, Facebook and Google collect orders of magnitude more data about you, your life, your job, your friends and colleagues, your medical status, everything.