Quite a controversial decision… I love Kagi though, but I don’t understand why they would want to drag Brave into this.

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    They are using brave search results, like they do with others. Frankly, you could build totally identical arguments (and to be honest, much more serious) for “partnering” with Google and Microsoft, but then the product wouldn’t exist and wouldn’t be as good.

    The relationship with the Brave founder is so indirect, that this - to me - feels like an argument from someone who is looking for reasons to get angry. Kagi probably uses AWS (or other clouds), which funds Amazon (known for terrible worker rights), funds Google, fossil fuel industry, etc. It’s a sad reality, but you simply can’t exist nowadays in the moral and ethical way many people would like. You can, only if you are a privileged one. Technologically speaking, Google can probably do it, for example (own hardware, DCs, tech etc.). We can choose to fight those that directly support political agendas we disagree with, or we can damage the smallest players by demanding they will be 100% pure and ethical by not having any relationship with those with those agendas.

    In my personal opinion, such unrealistic ethical requirements end up being a reactionary choice as they will ultimately impede new - better - players to emerge and will leave the existing - worse - dominating.

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      Google allows Brave to run ads, so by using Google you’re promoting homophobia… Microsoft allows Brave to run Windows, so by using any Microsoft product you’re promoting homophobia…

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    Kagi can go fuck right off with whatever guerilla marketing program keeps constantly putting it in my face.

    It’s clearly not organic growth, and I will never try it because now I don’t trust it.

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      Nor should you, now that you know the project is beholden to scumbag money.

      Capitalism ruins everything.

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    That is kinda disappointing. I had a distaste for Brave after all the initial controversy regarding the ad blocking, which only got worse from the crypto crap they now have in the browser.

    I’ll still keep paying for Kagi, but this is a step in the wrong direction in my opinion. Let’s hope at least the results get noticeably better.

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      Don’t forget the Brave CEO being ousted from Mozilla for being massively homophobic, donating money to try to overturn the right for gay couples to be married.

      E: and them injecting affiliate codes when you copy some links, tracking users. Particularly bad when they relentlessly market themselves as being private

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        These days it’s easy to get label as -phohic

        Men can’t pregnant

        Men aren’t women

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          You don’t get labeled as “phobic” for thinking that - you get labeled as “phobic” because you’ve made it, and your complete inability to mind your own business, your entire personality.